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Hartford Downtown Study Design Workshop Pinup Session #2 - Shared screen with speaker view
Anthony Cherolis
24:49
Maintainable and cost effective is important, but we're at least a decade out from this project, so don't take tiny steps. By 2035, City of Hartford is aiming for 10% bike mode share and a much more walkable corridor. Expect our transit mode share will go up too. I'd like to see 15% (currently) go up to 25% or more. :)
Anthony Cherolis
26:53
To Ashley's for breakfast... for example. Frogger across Main Street for comfort food. That's how you work off the home fries.
Gannon Long
27:32
I would like to see plans for what it'd look like to close that last exit fo the Whitehead highway. Imagine how beautiful and welcoming it would be to walk 2 min from Main St by Pulaski Circle.
Gannon Long
28:02
Definitely want to see more mid block crosswalks, those are much safer than 4 ways crossings - you have only 2 ways to look when you cross.
Gannon Long
29:12
Also very curious to see the treatments suggested for the area by Park & Main/ Barnard Park, which is an absolute nightmare for pedestrians in many ways.
Gannon Long
31:01
Can the person sharing their screen please maximize zoom... the background apps are distracting an already visually complex slide
Anthony Cherolis
31:55
(Gannon) I'd rather close that Prospect St exit and entrance lane for the Whitehead Hwy, within one block of Main St and right next to UConn Hartford, apartment building, and the library. But yeah. Close that exit Prospect + implement a much safer redesign (slower, actual roundabout) at the exit at Pulaski Circle. With post covid lower traffic levels, now is the time to do it. UConn had a transportation study done by Nelson Nygaard that recommended several good changes. I'll go find the link for that.
Gannon Long
32:53
Yeah, if you close it by Arch, all the better! But surely the Pulaski exit is unnecessary and as we know, very dangerous. This is a barrier to people GETTING to Main St on foot. Makes a short walk a lot scarier and longer.
Kathleen Maldonado
33:33
true Gannon
Gannon Long
34:07
(FYI My pronouns are she/her/hers)
Gannon Long
35:32
This isn't obvious from the picture, but there are 5 lanes to cross on foot just north of the park.
Gannon Long
37:22
trying to see if the roundabout is separate from Barnard Park northern edge or if it extends the park?
Gannon Long
38:20
putting a roundabout in doesn't make it easier to cross the street though...?
Gannon Long
38:27
other than slowing the cars.
Bonnie Matthews
38:50
What will happen to the foot traffic as a result of a roundabout? Won't that make crossing the street harder?
Gannon Long
38:56
exactly Bonnie
Lisa Rivers
38:59
Traditional roundabout is much more understandable for drivers than the peanut. Good point about the ped crossing Gannon.
Anthony Cherolis
39:57
Slower cars, in a well designed (single lane) roundabout, are much more likely to yield at crosswalks. But yeah, if cars can zip through at 25 or 30 mph+, pedestrian crossing will be difficult.
Gannon Long
40:54
Part of the problem in this area is how many legs you have to finish to cross one stree.
Gannon Long
41:02
the roundabout adds more steps
Gannon Long
41:19
is the roundabout 360 degrees? I can't tell from the pic if it's connected to the park or not.
Anthony Cherolis
41:30
A roundabout design likely does need raised crosswalks or speed tables for anything that looks like a straightaway.
Gannon Long
41:51
they're not going to do raised crosswalks though they would damage the firetrucks and ambulances
Gannon Long
43:23
I would like to narrow the road from the curbs out
Gannon Long
44:12
widening the sidewalk would shorten the trip. Roundabout may be safer than what's there now. However, multiple stop and looks to cross a street is stressful as a pedestrian.
Marquan J.
44:18
Are there any discussion about redirecting emergency vehicle traffic from the residential neighborhoods of Columbus and Wyllys streets to Main street? This works in other major cities and would make the residential neighborhoods surrounding Main street more appealing.
Bill Veronesi
46:16
Can you get some trees in the median?
Lisa Rivers
46:39
What about HAWK instead of flashing beacons? Being used in Stamford.
Gannon Long
46:54
I get why you're using them but seriously medians are the worst. The more pleasant it is to stand on the better. (Some of them are at a slant or really narrow or otherwise uncomfortable.)
Anthony Cherolis
47:00
Can we recommend "hawk signals" at mid-block crossings? For a street like Main St, there is a high vehicle count, and potentially higher speeds at night. Cars in Hartford speed up for yellow.
Gannon Long
47:28
cycle track with barriers is cool
Gannon Long
47:41
i'm curious to see how people would cycle differently with these changes
Sahar Amjad
47:58
cycle track with barriers has been my favorite
Benjamin Villa
48:06
Hello everyone, thank you for sharing all of this information. It could be interesting to think about the parking lane, as a “flex” lane instead, to think about autonomous ride/hail services in the future, other emerging transportation services, bike/scooter sharing, food trucks, freight loading/unloading
Gannon Long
50:27
trees in the median sounds good but i'd be concerned about visibility (mine and that of the cars trying to hit me)
Sahar Amjad she/her/hers
51:22
thinking back to the trees that fell during the tropical storm a few weeks back. as nice as they'd be it might be a bit of a storm hazard
Anthony Cherolis
51:40
Re: Medians - If we want to focus pedestrian crossing at improved mid-block, a physical fence in the median would be effective. There is a successful example on Trumbull Street. That said, there would need to be end-pieces that can stop a car, heavyweight structure. The median fences on nearby Retreat Ave get clobbered (and not replaced).
Gannon Long
51:51
Yes medians
Anthony Cherolis
53:41
We've got one pedestrian activated stoplight (no wait) at the state capitol to cross Capitol Ave. Not set up for residents, which is a bummer, but that's how it rolls in Hartford historically.
Bill Veronesi
54:44
The sight line in the proposed view your showing still looks infinite. Cars are likely to speed accordingly.
Gannon Long
55:40
protection for bike lanes is essential.
Peter Walsh
56:24
can any of the plantings, routes, and street furniture be seasonal? The plaza areas of downtown, which I believe are largely privately owned, do change seasonally.
Gannon Long
57:29
what park?
Rochelle Stackhouse
57:30
Do the bike lanes continue past the library and the Wadsworth?
Gannon Long
57:41
ROchelle this just goes up to Asylum.
Anthony Cherolis
58:13
Would be good to expand dining at Peppercorn's. Their current sidewalk dining isn't ADA compliant.
Kate Montgomery
58:25
Yay Parklets! When could that test happen?
Nick Addamo
58:55
Love the focus on bikes and peds! What design considerations are being given to bus stops or transit operations in general? Bus stop consolidation? Any transit priority being considered (bus signals, queue jump lanes, dedicated bus lanes, etc)?
Gannon Long
58:56
Is the city planning to redo the Main St/ Charter Oak Ave painting bumpout? The previous DPW director committed to making that permanent but he is now gone.
Gannon Long
59:14
@Nick - wondering if anyone for DOT is here?
Anthony Cherolis
01:00:16
(Lisa Rivers is on from CT DOT and transit)
Gannon Long
01:00:39
oh ok thanks
Gannon Long
01:01:11
one of the biggest mobility challenges on this road is that it takes more than 1 bus to go from one end to the other.
Gannon Long
01:01:23
Literally, you have to change buses to go south on this stretch of Main St.
Gannon Long
01:01:28
thanks for raising that Nick
Rochelle Stackhouse
01:01:43
One concern is that there are often health dept and other social service agency trucks and vans parked in front of City Hall and the Library to serve folk who live on the street and others in need of services. Where would they relocate?
Gannon Long
01:02:13
Regarding transit, it'd also be good to see some reorganization by CT Transit of the bus routes, DASH, hospital shuttle, commuter buses, etc... now is the time.
Gannon Long
01:02:37
lots of overlapping and yet inadequate transit service.
Bahman Moghimi
01:02:48
It is good to know that exclusive pedestrian phase, meaning ped signal to be separated from vehicular movement, is a very good approach for pedestrian safety. However, if it is based on push button, it will ruin the coordination of the signalized corridor, that is the problem of Main street at the moment. Instead, the concurrent ped phase (peds move concurrently with the parallel traffic) provide better green wave, if we are planning to have exclusive bike phase and good coordination at the same time, the exclusive ped phase should be on re-call (to be happening at every cycle).
Peter Walsh
01:03:16
the bus area is very mysterious. Probably clear to people who use certain buses every day but no so much to people who might take a trip from time to time.
Gannon Long
01:04:01
@Peter, if you take the bus south from Jennings Road to downtown, you have to switch around Asylum to get to Park St. There isn't a bus that takes you from north of Asylum to south of Wyllys. that is a major and basic challenge.
Lisa Rivers
01:04:56
Keep the bus input coming.
Gannon Long
01:05:44
Thanks Lisa. I'd be glad to chat offline about Main St buses anytime.
Nick Addamo
01:06:00
Excellent! I love the bus platform concept. Jives well with the cycle track
Gannon Long
01:06:12
better signage would also be great on buses...
Anthony Cherolis
01:07:02
Lisa - I've mentioned before, the #161 CTfastrak route is currently missing the Park and Main Street bus hub and has a very odd 15 to 20 minute stop on Washington Street near CCMC (when it could have better frequency). The ridership for that otherwise rare and convenient cross town route is low, partly because it skips the nearby bus hub.
Lisa Rivers
01:07:23
Sure Gannon. Reach out via email to set a time to talk. lisa.rivers@ct.gov
Gannon Long
01:07:23
Lisa, this is so complicated, it's a lot to rethink. But one probably more simple ask is, could the DASH add the non profit center at Charter Oak & Wyllys to their stops, as well as the Capitol? That would be very useful.
Gannon Long
01:08:12
state offices and tons of advocates are right in that spot. would save y'all traffic and parking at the lob. simple change. would boost ridership.
Gannon Long
01:08:45
we also need more buses after 7 pm on this road.
Lisa Rivers
01:08:47
DASH routing is set by our relationship with the Convention Center. You'll note that expanded hours are tied to events. We would need their buy-in/concurrence.
Gannon Long
01:08:55
ok that's good to know
Gannon Long
01:09:42
This map is helpful to look at with the bus routes. part of the reason you have all those is that people are having to transfer when they shouldn't be.
Peter Walsh
01:10:48
the Dash bus hangs out in the Conversation Center garage while waiting to start another circuit.
Anthony Cherolis
01:11:16
Re: mid-block crossing - I'm not opposed to having mid-block crossing being part of the signal timing for the corridor. Want to make sure that the wait time is not too long, or it will be ignored (similar to intersections) and put vulnerable users at risk.
Lisa Rivers
01:12:46
Can we get the comments/chat documented?
Dan Hemme
01:13:41
I am documenting the conversation
Paul Bengtson
01:14:57
Can HAWK signals at mid block crossings have controls in center median so that traffic is only stopped in each direction as called by the pedestrian?
Travis Ewen
01:15:06
https://www.reimaginingmainstreet.com/
Gannon Long
01:16:10
If anyone can answer this question please do: The roundabout north of Barnard park, is it a full 360 around? How much space is between the north end of the park and the roundabout? Or is it more an extension of the park?
Anthony Cherolis
01:16:54
Resource Link - Here's 5 1/2 years of Hartford crash data as an interactive heatmap. You can zoom in on Main Street (and nearby intersections) for this project. Residents can zoom in on streets in their neighborhood. Fresh off the presses. https://www.ctnewsjunkie.com/archives/entry/20200902_analysis_what_can_we_learn_from_an_interactive_crash_map/
Kathleen Maldonado
01:17:02
yesterdays Pin Up is already online
Travis Ewen
01:17:47
RE: Roundabout - it is a full 360 with approx. one lane
Marquan J.
01:17:54
Thanks for the crash data
Nick Addamo
01:18:54
The wide angle from northbound Main to eastbound Charter Oak Ave (at Buckingham) really should be right-sized and reduced.
Gannon Long
01:19:22
Yes Nick - the treatment the city did last fall should be made permanent at Charter Oak.
Sandy Fry
01:21:03
Regarding the tactical urbanism at Main and Charter Oak, we will be making the bumpout into Charter Oak permanent. The bumpout to Main street will not be made permanent, when Main street is repaved in the spring, bike lanes will be added, and that width is needed for the bike lanes.
Nick Addamo
01:21:23
Thanks Sandy, good to hear
Gannon Long
01:21:42
Ok that's great Sandy, thank you
Marquan J.
01:21:50
Good to know Sandy
Nick Addamo
01:21:59
Are all bus stops proposed to be pull-outs? Any bus bulb-outs proposed, so the bus can stay in the lane while loading/unloading? There is a lot of good solutions to achieve this without moving the curb
Gannon Long
01:23:18
If any of these medians can be reasonably referred to as an "Isle of Refuge" I will be thrilled.
Nick Addamo
01:24:06
right, the bus boarding islands with the cycle track would achieve that.
Anthony Cherolis
01:24:45
I've seen other cities extending medians (or double yellow, with bollards) further into intersections. This hardening of the intersection requires left turning cars to slow down and not race through, and come at the crosswalk at a slower speed and closer to perpendicular. That seems important at wide intersections like Charter Oak and Main St.
Nick Addamo
01:25:01
https://nacto.org/publication/urban-street-design-guide/street-design-elements/curb-extensions/bus-bulbs/
Anthony Cherolis
01:25:33
If the median is extended and would impact large vehicle turns, they could be mountable.
Gannon Long
01:25:43
That's a Hartford history reference specifically designed for this audience!
Nick Addamo
01:27:08
good point Sandy, thanks - lots of tradeoffs here for all the modes of transportation
Anthony Cherolis
01:27:27
"Isle of Safety" - We used to have it, but now it is out in East Windsor, where transit goes to die. https://www.ct-trolley.org/about/collection/isle-of-safety/
Peter Walsh
01:28:43
I did hear that the Isle of Safety was coming back but I gathered the trolley museum wouldn’t let it go
Gannon Long
01:29:13
So, let's see our Isle of Safety history and raise our standards to Isle of Refuge level safety for pedestrians on Main St
Anthony Cherolis
01:29:31
We have a sad shadow of the "Isle of Safety" at statehouse square, outlined in bricks. Because we don't want folks to sit and idle.
Anthony Cherolis
01:29:41
... under shelter.
Gannon Long
01:30:40
this is great to see
Gannon Long
01:30:44
thanks for your hard work everyone
Gannon Long
01:30:47
and for sharing with us
Anne Hayes
01:30:55
Thank you everyone!
Gannon Long
01:30:56
Glad to see this project moving forward.
Anthony Cherolis
01:31:12
It is quite exciting!
Nick Addamo
01:31:16
Excellent work to date, everyone - this is no small feat and very impressive and exciting. Bravo, Sandy and team!
Kate Montgomery
01:31:17
I agree lane reduction is priority here, hopefully elsewhere in the city where busses have quick stops we could integrate bus only lanes and reduce pull-offs
Kate Montgomery
01:31:37
Thank you!
Peter Walsh
01:31:43
thank you this has been great
Gannon Long
01:31:52
Yeah way to go Sandy and team. ANd thanks for putting up with our meeting weary attempts at humor.
Gannon Long
01:31:54
night
Sahar Amjad she/her/hers
01:31:55
thank you!